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Akasha
Posts: 3

Posted: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:45:00 PM

I am looking for any information everyone has to share on what is needed to start up a new salon or spa.How many square feet are needed for what size shop? What rent tends to run? Where to go for funding? Where to find marketing info? Basically anything to get a new shop up, running, and successful.

Millie
Posts: 22

Posted: Friday, July 06, 2001 3:02:00 PM

I am in the process of opening my own salon as we speak. Find a good leasing agent that can help you locate the kind of space you are looking for. It is important to go in to a town that has a high median income so make sure you research those figures. I have looked all around several towns in my area and most rent is 15-17$ per sq foot. Some of those include utilities some do not. I am looking at 725 sq feet in an upscale office building. I will have 4 stations, 3 bulkheads, 2 mani tables and 1 multi use treatment room, (waxing, facials, massage,body treatments, pedicures)Restrooms are across the hall so I do not have to waste floor space for that in the salon. Because the space is not built out I have the option to build it out myself and reduce my rent significantly. Like by $450.00 per month putting me in biz for around $695.00. This figure includes utilities. The rent goes up to the full $17 by year 5. I have purchased used equip to get started 3 bulkheads, 4 stations, 4 hydrolics and 2 shampoo chairs for $1400.00. My hubby can relaminate the fixtures (cheap) and I had all 6 chairs recovered for 600.00. I also bought nice retail displays from a Homeplace that was going out of business. Everything will be freshly painted or relaminated and no one will be the wiser. I was tempted to buy new stuff but because I am doing the build-out and bearing the cost of materials,(hubby doing the construction too ;-)) I needed to keep my fixed costs down. I will need to still purchase bowls, manicure tables and inventory. As for financing, I have applied at several banks, SBA too, still waiting to hear back. I recommend a good business plan to take to the banks, Business plan pro by Palo Alto software. It has a wizard feature so you plug in the numbers and it does a lot of the work for you. It has a sample hair salon biz plan in it too. There are several books I can recommend. Fast Forward by Neil Duchoff is a good one. Anything you can get your hands on that has advertising and marketing ideas will help get you going. Getting all you can out of all you've got is another good one by Jay Abraham. A lot of the software programs for salons include marketing tools. I know Mikael has a lot of good marketing ideas with their software. Try and have your promotions planned as far ahead as you can and use your sales consultant to guide you as to when manufacturers will have specials. I have also formed my own corporation, in Ohio you can go into the secretary of state website and download all the forms, fill them out, send your check and bingo, you're a corporation. Being incorporated gives you personal protection against debt and tax advantages. That's all I can think of for now.........

Akasha
Posts: 3

Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2001 8:17:00 PM

thank you lots of help so far....if anyone can share more i'm looking to know all i can first...and by the way wanting to open up in kentucky so any info state specific would be great too:>

Lila
Posts: 220
Bronze Member

Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:28:00 PM

Much depends on how much you have to remodel. Rents really range from place to place. The truth is you can spend a little or alot. Narrow it down to what is essential and what can wait. Make sure all the essential things (services, decor etc.) are in place initially. All the things that are debateable and can be implimented later will take longer than you think. If it's essential to your profitability or promotablity DO IT NOW. Aside from start-up costs you'll need rent for 6 months to a year (try 1 year) An advertising budget and payroll if you have employees. I know this all adds up but it will save you some much needed energy to promote your business and work on the customer service aspects so it will grow.

Andrea
Posts: 7

Posted: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:19:00 PM

Question:

How many people have salons/spas that are free-standing? Such as a house that is zoned commercial or just a solitary building where the salon stands alone?

Is this a good idea or a bad one?

I have an opportunity to convert a free standing building into a salon on a main road in a mostly residential area. It has it's good and bad points.
Here's the good: high income area, less competition, excellent advert. plan, good price an I can own the building, structure has architectural appeal, and no one can move in next to me that depreciates the image of my business. For example, Pappy's Laundr-O-Mat or Check Cash Express etc.
Bad: No foot traffic, not a business area or a mall space.

I'd like some feedback from people who own salons that are not in a traditional shopping area. Are they successful and what do you do differently than other salon in prime retail locations?

STEPHEN
Posts: 182
Bronze Member

Posted: Monday, October 01, 2001 7:58:00 PM

I have owned a 1909 Victorian four-square,4800 sq. feet, since 1988. Purchasing this space was an investment opportunity I couldn't pass up, plus I was tired of making capital improvements on leased properties, only to have landlords increase my rents. Although this property has increased in value five times what I paid for it, there are many straightforward and incidental expenses involved in owning it I have had to deal with during the years. One thing to remember with commercial property is, as it appreciates in value, property taxes and insurance(fire, casualty, liability) increase correspondingly. Another thing you should be aware of is the conditions for which the present owner is "grandfathered in" such as handicap accessibility, and multi-use and occupancy. Make sure you check the use-occupancy for this property, and have codes come in and make sure it is up to codes for what you want to do with it. Always go by codes... Be certain you have enough cash flow to make the improvements, plus another 25% for surprises. I hope you have enough service revenue to pay for everything, as this location doesn't sound as if you can build hairdressers gradually there. Please do not expect new hairdressers without clientele to help you pay for it... that won't happen.. trust me on this one. Pay a bona fide inspector to go over the space with a check list: roof, HVAC, plumbing, walls, foundation, and particularly anything mechanical or electrical.....don't forget about parking should you be fortunate enough to pull in a hairdresser with a large clientele..find out about signage, as neighborhoods can be really "funny" about things of that nature. The list goes on and on. Hey, I'm currently painting for the fourth time and having a complete ball. If you really want to discuss particulars with me, respond to this post, and perhaps we can email, or whatever. I'd love to help, as all the hassles and joys of owning my place, have paid off handsomely....when I sell, I will be completely debt-free and financially fixed for life. It's not all work.. Oh, and by the way, if we don't talk again, make sure you have/get a very good C P A, with a strong background in real estate. Hope this helps a little..I'm sure I've left out 365 other details.

BethJ
Posts: 86

Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:04:00 AM

I also have owned 2 commercial properties. My first was in a old victorian house (which we outgrew) and my current is a freestanding commercial building. Both have appeal, it just depends on what you are looking for. My first location was in a residential area. As far as parking goes, it was at a premium. I had 8 people working times 8 clients, and that made for a mixed bag of parking available. Most of my people parked down the street in a party store parking lot that we had an agreement with. As we grew as a salon, i saw the need to move to a more comercial location. I now own a freestanding building. Some of the ambiance is gone, but at least we all can fit. As the last poster so thoughly pointed out their are alot of things involved in ownership of any property. But also like them My property has greatly appriecated in the last 5 years and I expect to sell out and retire somewhere around 40!! I like his advice about not relying on others to make your payments for you. I have always looked at property with the thought, if everyone walks tomorrow can I pay for this myself? If the answer is no, I would think long and hard about it. Good luck to you!! I have never regreted owning my own property!!!

Andrea
Posts: 7

Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:58:00 PM

Thanks for the advice Stephen and Beth. I will consider everything you've said.

Stephen, I would take you up on your offer but I haven't decided if I'm serious or not. I'm in a process of investigation about costs on spaces and start-up etc. This spot came to my attention and I just wanted some feedback to see if I'm wasting my time.

This would be my second salon ---first was a failure---which makes me feel more confident somehow---call me weird.

Anyway, I just get good vibes about some locations and not others. And sometimes traditional retail spaces don't look that great to me and yet a spot like this one seems more attractive. But it doesn't seem logically correct. People say location is #1 priority and you should pay for prime retail space and yet I shop around and find you can pay top dollar for a bad location depending on who your neighboring businesses are ---can't control that. So I just want to hear from people who have done it this way and would they recommend it.

Millie
Posts: 22

Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:46:00 AM

I am in the process of opening a salon. I looked long and hard before deciding on my location. I looked at strip malls, even an old home to renovate, ran into the parking problem there. I have chosen to locate in a small yet very upscale office building, It just had more "positives" in my T square than all the other properties I compared it to, for ME that is. It is located on the main drag in one of the fastest growing communities in Ohio, and there is only one other upscale salon in town. I got a buildout allowance for the space to the tune of 18,000.00 which came right off my 5 yr rent total. My husband is a contractor so the buildout will cost me a lot less, under 10 grand. All that said, my rent is $695.00 this year and does not go over 1000.00 till year 5. I will be able to pay all my expenses on my own, which I agree is key! I have room to expand if I choose to but I am hoping to be able to buy my own faclity in a few years. There is great advice on this board but you also have to follow your gut. Best of Luck to you!

KC
Posts: 14

Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:51:00 AM

i just opened a new salon back in may and would like to know if there is any good software out there designed just for salons, ive been looking and i found 1 company only, but they want a thousand dollars a year to use there software, is there anyone out there that can help? is there any software out there that can be bought 1 time with out such a long commitment?

BellaGal
Posts: 6

Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:17:00 PM

I use Salon Iris, I belive it was about $300 for the basic software and $300 for the cash drawer, so I can use my computer as a register also. You only pay once, and I belive you get free updates.

KC
Posts: 14

Posted: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:50:00 AM

do you know there e-mail add.? if not i'll try to find them. thanks for your help.

BellaGal
Posts: 6

Posted: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:48:00 PM

Its www.SalonIris.com if you go there you can download a fully functional demo that way you can see if you like it.

KC
Posts: 14

Posted: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:13:00 PM

thanks for the info.

jamie Flanagan
Posts: 1

Posted: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:34:00 PM

hi everyone I work at a small salon in ct. I have been offered to buy it, the owner is an absentee owner and is never there and is not a hairdresser. I was wondering what questions to ask and how I should go about doing things the right way and how to apply for a government loan. or just anything else I should take into consideration. thanks

Millie
Posts: 22

Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:16:00 PM

Ask to see their tax returns, profit loss statements and any other business documents they will share. What is their lease situation, can you sublease or do you have to start from scratch with the landlord?? Don't fall for buying the salon "potential" if you don't see a decent profit margin. You need to see it in black and white or there is no value in the company and the owner should realize that. I don;t know of any business advisor or bank that would advise you to purchase without scrutinizing the business records. If they cannot prove the salon profit on paper, the purchase price goes down. Way down. You are buying USED equipment, probably tired surroundings so don;t be lured into paying more than it is worth. Consider what you could lease and spend to get your own "place" up and running. Force yourself to sit and write a business plan.. It will make you look at very important areas that you may not think of. It is a great working lesson for anyone considering ownership. Lastly, take your biz plan to banks and see what money is available. I got an SBA to start my business in November. Very best of luck to you.......

melissa
Posts: 42

Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:47:00 PM

One thing you have to consider is that a bank will only loan you a percentage of want the salon is worth. used aslon equip. isn't worth alot.
Do you want to booth rent or do commision? make sure your boss isn't in any taxes
suituations. good luck

XXXLADYXXX
Posts: 1

Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:04:00 PM

I am thinking about about opening a salon and would like to know what are the costs involved with owning such an establishment (here in NYC; NOT midtown area)? I am not keen on square feet or any technical stuff off the bat.
So...I am mostly interested in starting off small (lease a store-front to be exact). Hopefully drawing up a picture will help. These are the details for which I would like the salon to have: For instance, a 5 hair station (mid-section), 2 barber station (front; over by entrance), 3 nail tech station (back area), a small but roomy back office, and bathroom. Would you say these elements call for a small salon? How much rent would I be looking at for a salon of this type? Rounded off to the nearest whole dollar amount how much am I looking at on a month to month basis, including utilities?

Lila
Posts: 220
Bronze Member

Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:22:00 PM

The price will vary depending on location and square footage. I learned some of this stuff regarding my area and other areas of interest by contacting commercial real estate brokers. They will call you with available locations and give some insight into what the going rate is in the neighborhood(s) that you desire. Or watch the paper in the commercial/retail sections to get some idea on your own first. I noticed that sometimes an entire busy street is priced as a prime commercial property but that doesn't mean it will work for you so you have to be aware of what is going on on at each location and know what you want the space to do for you both inside and outside.

Lila
Posts: 220
Bronze Member

Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:28:00 PM

Another thing is to look for businesses that will compliment your business and ones in areas with other small indie businesses. This will indicate that there is enough energy there to draw business and that the rents are reasonable enough for small businesses.

kmfetty
Posts: 1

Posted: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:10:00 PM

I need a business plan! Has anyone used any of the online downloadable salon business plans? HELP!

monica
Posts: 12

Posted: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:41:00 AM

I am going into business with 2 partners. We each have our own specialites (Hair, Nails and Skincare). Is it a good idea to open a Salon/Skin Care center with others? What are some advantages/disadvantages. Most improtantly, how would the profits be split? (equally or based on the services you performed?)Any advice would be truly appreciated.

Anonymous

Posted: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:26:00 PM

Monica, I have went into business with a partner 2 yrs. ago. It is sooo important that you are able to communicate honestly with your partner(s), you have to be able to say what you feel without having to worry about causing friction. It is also important to serve seperate functions in running the salon, one may be in charge of inventory and retail, another can serve as a human resources dept. and employee management, etc. There are so many aspects to running the salon, accounting, book-keeping, advertising and promotions, even who is going to clean the salon. If you each have your own funtion it is less likely you will step on any toes. Then trust each other to do their jobs and stay out of their backyard. Just as important is Unity. Weekly meetings are a must. You all need to share your ideas, concerns, and look for ways to constantly improve on the way you all work towards your COMMOM goals. This should all be outlined and agreed upon in an operating agreement. A mission statement (Your common goals as salon owners) is also a good idea, as well as an employee handbook. These docs will always change as you all grow and learn. In my situation, I invested a small amount more capital then my partner, so I have final say. If you have an odd number of partners, you wouldn't need this. Advantages: Being able to take time off!!, Not being overwhelmed with to-do's, and having another brain to share ideas. Disadvantages: Only making half the profit!!, having another brain to disagree with, lol. It's important to keep it professional, yes we are friends too, but that starts the moment we walk out the salon door. As for the pay structure we both still work behind the chair so we pay ourselves a smaller commission (40%) and a salary. That way if I take a week off, but still take care of my management duties, I still get my salary but no commission. Also this way you never feel like one is working harder behind the chair but making the same salary. It took us 6 months to figure out this system, so far it's what works for us both.
We run an upscale salon and day spa in Ohio, and have 8 stylists (2 that are also nail techs), 3 receptionists, 1 massage therapist and estetician. We have grown quite a lot in 2 years. I would also like to express the importance of being seperate but united. NEVER announce a change to your employees without first consulting your partner(s). A United front or not at all. A few other notes would include a business plan, a partnership agreement and very professional, hardworking, honest adult partners. Also, make use of a good attorney to help with an agreement.
Best of Luck to you in your new adventure, make sure you think real hard about what you want and make sure your new partners want the same thing.

Anonymous

Posted: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:55:00 PM

I suggest an attorney to handle all the agreements.

pratsb
Posts: 248
Bronze Member

Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:47:00 PM

Partnership vs. Corporation - In what state is your business located? Does your state have a statutory close corporation law? If so, you may want to consider a close corp. rather than a partnership. You get the protection of a corporation with the less restricted atmosphere of a partnership. For federal income tax purposes, you can file as a sub-S corporation which allows you some flexibility and options regarding federal income taxes. With a close corpration, you will have a shareholer agreement setting out guidelines concering authority to act, income division, expenses division and any other agreements you make with you fellow shareholders partners). A corporation also gives protection against certain personal liability that is not available with a partnership.

If the partnership breaks up you basically disslove the partnership. With a corporation you can simply buy back or transfer the stock and continue the business without interruption. Rules regarding business entities vary from state to state. Do it right, spell out your agreements, don't ignore unresolved issues, then see an attorney and a CPA to help you determine what will work best for you.

Patrick
Salon Berlin
Dallas

Anonymous

Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:37:00 PM

I agree with you pratsb, My mistake in not explaining. Although our salon is an S-Corporation, we still have a partnership agreement between ourselves to outline all the "What if's". If any real estate is involed, you should also look into a LLC (Limited Liability Corp.) We split our company into two, the salon business is under the S-Corp. and the Building, an LLC. Check out the options in your state and definitely consult your tax or business attorney.

Anonymous

Posted: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:56:00 PM

I am starting a new day spa/salon and I would like to find some used equipment that is in new condition. I have been looking in the Seattle area. I would like to know if there is a salon or spa going out of business or buying new equipment for their salon. Please let me know where to look.

Anonymous

Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:02:00 AM

Sometimes your beauty supply distributors have information like this. Even salon furniture retailers sometimes have a division for used equipment. And though I haven't tried this maybe someone is auctioning equipment on e-bay.

Anonymous

Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:17:00 PM

Does anyone have feedback on opening a salon with 3 0r 4 partners?

Anonymous

Posted: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:35:00 AM

EEEEK!!!!! Sounds like problems. If you can do it alone, do it. Too many cooks spoil the pot.

Anonymous

Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:34:00 PM

To eek, we are actually all "Head chefs!!" ha ha. On a serious note- we all have the same goals and motivation, same belief systems and work ethic,. I need some information- has anyone done this? And what kind of lawyer do we talk to??

pratsb
Posts: 248
Bronze Member

Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:48:00 PM

Anon, don't kid yourself. We don't all have the same motivation, ethics, etc... Talk to a general practice lawyer about the entitiy that best suits your needs (ie: corporation, partnership, limited liability company). Talk to a CPA about the best entity to use. It's pretty straight forward and shouldn't be expensive.

In your shareholder agreement, partnership agreement and or bylaws, resolve all issues, including but not limited to: authority to act and bind issues, income/expense division issues; and issues regarding the continuation of the entity in the event of death, divorce and or the desire to get out. Don't ignore the tough issues. If you can, go at it alone.

Good luck,

Patrick
Salon Berlin
Dallas

Anonymous

Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:50:00 AM

These people are absolutely right. I wouldn't encourage a person to have 1 partner let alone several. It's very difficult. It's lik a marriage. Everyone starts out with the best of intentions but the day to day is very hard. And differences are going to test the strength of your character. Nothing is impossible, but I wouldn't put my money on an arrangement like this. In the event that you go through with it, take Patrick's advice. And allow me to give a word of warning. Get everything in writing. Do not rely on mere words for anything. Even if it seems inconsequential. Somrthing that seems unimportant in theory might make a huge deal later on. All ageements should be part of the business contract. And also remember that sometimes family, spouses etc. hav a stake in people's business matters and they are there chirping in the person's ear day and night. Get a good personal lawyer to represent you and look over the contracts and advise you in the future. Avoid letting someone bring in their "family lawyer" to put it together and oversethe business, get a nuetral professional for this.

Anonymous

Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:37:00 PM

I am in a salon where we are all partners, we have 5 girls there. There are 3 girls that are full time and then me and another girl work part time. We are all self employed, doing business as a joint venture. I would love to talk to you about what we do and give and get some different ideas, but it would take too much to type them here tonight, so you can e-mail me at cosmogirl0477@yahoo.com Thanks and Good Luck.

anonymous
Posts: 19

Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:31:00 AM

How long have you been in business together? I have a partner and together we have two employees, and we're having a devil of a time trying to motivate are two employees. My partner is mostly the problem, she just wants to come to work, do hair and our daily entries on the computer,(she doesn't detail them I end up doing that later, plus the filing.) and go home. Anything we try as far as promotional deals, (I'm just going to say everything we try to promote in salon services and sales) it's up to me or it doesn't get done. She is holding us back, I think I would do better if I did this myself. Hell, on a Friday she was working with one of our employees and it was a slow day, so she closed the shop early by a half hour. No sign on the door and the answering machine wasn't changed. This is real good business if someone happens to walk in, huh? She leaves early alot (she marks out at the end of the day so she can't take appts.) and comes in earlier the next day to make up for the time, except that there is no appts. Oh yeah, she's pregnant again after 3 misscarriages, she has one child. I'm trying to be sympathetic, but I have a family too! I'd have to partnerships are worse than a marriage, with your husband you can have a healthy fight and kiss and make up!

mc
Posts: 2360
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Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:03:00 AM

Can't you buy her out? if this is how she runs things you won't be open long. and your employees will quit.

livvey
Posts: 191
Bronze Member

Posted: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:53:00 AM

To Anonymous of April 17,

I have had 2 miscarriages myself and have actually stopped working because I don't want to deal with work if I have another. You obviously have never had this happen to you or you would realize how devastating it is. It goes beyond losing a fetus. It is about losing the dreams you had for the life inside of you.

You constantly sit there and thing, hmm, I gave up smoking, alcohol, caffeine, etc. way before I got pregnant, even before we started trying. I started the prenatels and the extra vitamins I would need 2 months before we started trying. My family has a stable income so we can afford the costs associated with a new child. I do everything that someone is supposed to do. Then why can't I maintain a pregnancy when a teenaged drug addicted drop out can pop out healthy kids like there's no tomorrow. You go through bitterness, anger, sadness, and even hatred of yourself, others who can get pregnant, God, your husband, in essance, everyone and everything in your path.

Her taking time off is probably indicitive of her sense of loss (because yes, you do mourn and you never truly get over it) and her sense of trying to do whatever in her external environment possible to try to hold on to this pregancy. Part of your attitude is so indicitive of the culture here where it is not acceptable to talk about the loss and people are expected to just go on with their lives like nothing happened, like she was never pregnant to begin with. Miscarrying to a lot of people (and it tends to be those that never go through something like this) is just not treated with the same respect as a lot of other personal tragedies. Let me tell you, it's not that easy.

Instead of criticisizing her obvious decision to work less, why don't you sit down with her and try to work out a solution with her to help her at least mentally (even if her body won't) handle this pregnancy. Her fear of miscarriage at this point is probably overwhelming and your attitude doesn't help things. Maybe she doesn't feel up to ownership right now because maybe her priorities have changed. Or maybe a different schedule would work better for her. You just never know until you have a talk with her and find out where she is coming from and what adjustments can be made to help the pregancy be as successful as possible while maintaining the attention that running a business needs.

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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:59:00 AM

My name is Stephanie a Palm Beach Hairstylist for 11 years. I purchaced some chairs, mirrors, and one sink bowl from my boss. I am eager to start a small business. It is so hard to save. Do you have any suggestions on where to save or how to raise extra money to contribute to this cause?

livvey
Posts: 191
Bronze Member

Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:50:00 PM

You might want to see about a loan through the Small Business Administration. Here's a link for them below. They have loans for all types of small businesses as well as specific loans for women in business. Before you go, I would make sure you have a good plan going in on how you intend to run your shop, pay your employees, what type of shop you want to run (i.e. high volume low price versus low volume high price, etc.). In other words, the more prepared you are when you present what you would like to achieve, the easier it will be for you to go through the process.

http://www.sba.gov/

mc
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:18:00 PM

Thanks livvey. I didn't know where to look for this information.

livvey
Posts: 191
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:49:00 PM

No problem!

Anonymous

Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:57:00 PM

what type of licenses do you have to have when opening a salon, other than a business and cosmetology license? also, where do you start when trying to come up with overhead costs monthly? for example, i am concedering opening a small, upscale salon 1,087 sq ft. at $15 per sq ft. i have a full book and i am also thinking of having a massage therapist, one other stylist, and a receptionist.(maybe adding additional stylists as it grows) just wanted some ideas from anyone who may have a similar situation.

livvey
Posts: 191
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:29:00 AM

Check with the state board in your state in regards to what licensing you will need.

Anonymous

Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:43:00 PM

I'd like to open a mid-size full service salon in upstate New York and I am starting my business plan. Any ideas on how long it usually takes to open a salon really appreciated!

Anonymous

Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:34:00 AM

It all depends your own circumstances.

Anonymous

Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:59:00 PM

I'm in a salon now as booth renter. Boss wants to find cheaper location and partner up. She's cut back hours and sick of bad employees. She is floundering and I am feeling jerked around. I only work 3 days a week(long days!!) , more clients than I can handle . Not sure if I shoukd do it regardless of her decision or stay put if she decides to stay. Any comments,advice,etc.

sizz
Posts: 344
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:52:00 AM

I guess I'd say that if you have to ask, it's time to move on from that salon owner.

NiceAnon
Posts: 277
Bronze Member

Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:16:00 AM

Go with your gut instinct. It will never steer you wrong. Good luck!

Anonymous

Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:07:00 AM

Thank you!

Anonymous

Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:40:00 PM

Partners do not work!

FunKyHaiR
Posts: 17

Posted: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:31:00 PM

Hi everyone... just looking for some advice here! I am a Hair Stylist as well as a Make- Up Artist, and i am seriously considering opening a full service salon in So. California. I just had a bad experience, after 3 years of business the salon i was working at went out of business, unpaid bills, no new clientelle, poor management and all that! I saw what happened first hand to the owner, and what did that do? It motivated me to be a successful owner. I have the motivation and the drive to do it, but sometimes i just dont know where to start. I am currently enrolled in some small business claases at my local college, im getting extended training as a hairstylist, and im constantly surfing the web and on BTC looking for new info. Can anybody give me some advice, also i was wondering about those buisness plan services, where its like a bunch of information and it helps you set a plan for yourself, some are expensive, do i really need that? Lastly Im going into this myself, no partners, just my parents who have been sucessful business people. Like i said i am a Hair Stylist a "Artist" Creative abilities i know i have, I know the buisness side is totally opposite, is there a way to find that Medium? Any advice would really help. Thanks in advance

HairMaven.com
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:30:00 PM

Check out this website.

http://www.michaelcoleseminars.com/

Russell

masas
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Starting
Posted: Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:29:21 PM

When looking at reviews Iris scored pretty low. My product rep told me about Siboom software. www.siboom.com. I've talked with salons who are using it and they love it. The demo on the web site is pretty cool. My computer arrive tomorrow. I'm going to try their 30 day trial.

julialoveshair
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Starting up a new salon
Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 12:55:52 AM

Hi! I've been using StyleSeat.com a free social network for stylists that offers online booking tools and educational resources. I've also been listed in their directory which allows clients to search and book appointments online. I've found it to be very helpful in growing my clientele!

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