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Zoe
Posts: 18

Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:05:00 PM
Men's cuts are so hard!!

New graduate keep in mind.

Ok I will use a number 2 cut for an example.
I take the number 2 up just past the curve of the head and on the sides just wide enough (clipper width). Basically I cut evenly all the way around the head from side back to side. Then I cut the top uniform layer, and then blending, I try to blend but it looks so choppy with scissors over comb. I am scared to use clipper over comb, becuase I sometimes leave more lines.

usually what I have been doing is after the bottom is clippered with the #2 and the top is cut I take the number 3 gaurd and go over the number 2 and up a little further past that. However I find it still does not look as good as a man's cut can look.

Any advice would be great.
Thank you.
Zoe

mc
Posts: 2360
Platinum Member

Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:46:00 AM
You can try using a bigger guard to start with and then go back with the 2. No biggie. All you need is practice. If your blades are dull or you are trying to cut too much hair at a time you won't get an accurate cut. try less hair in the conb and see if it helps. Thinning will help the blend too.
Are you pulling the clippers back out away from the head when as you go up?

britboy
Posts: 2083
Platinum Member

Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:53:00 AM
Zoe...Barber technique is so different from Beautician's that it's almost another method completely. Go to watch a Barber cut hair and you'll see that he/she stands further away from the chair than does the Beautician, and always uses long shears, not 4 or 5 inch like Cosmetologists which leave steps and ridges because they cut too small panels of hair.

He works at arm's length from the head, not close up. Have you ever tried to cut hair with the client in a Barber chair as opposed to a Cosmetologist's chair? Try it, you'll see the huge difference in posture. That's something that will help you, if you'll be more aware of your posture in relation to the head.

As to the technique, you'll see that Barbers always over-direct the hair upwards to avoid steps and nicks in the style.

Mc is correct, practice will make you better, but, don't get too hung-up on the clipper cut, it's fading (no pun intended) fast in popularity and besides, almost anyone in a $10.00 salon can do it in 10 minutes, so there's too much competition and not much money to be made doing it.

hairchic
Posts: 355
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:49:00 AM
I former co-worker of mine was a men's specialist (I wouldn't say barber she lacked the nuances) Her trick was to cut longest to shortest. Like the previous poster start with the larger clipper blade first then go back in. She got her training with American Crew. They seem to have some good education if you have the opportunity.

mc
Posts: 2360
Platinum Member

Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:20:00 AM
I never thought of it in a barber sense, but that's how I was taught. My instructor was a barber/cosmetologist.

mc
Posts: 2360
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Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:52:00 AM
I never thought of it in a barber sense, but that's how I was taught. My instructor was a barber/cosmetologist.

Anonymous

Posted: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:15:00 AM
Britboy, that is so true about a barbers style. I too could use some education on men's cuts and clipper cuts. I send my husband to a barber because I have tried cutting his hair so many times and couldn't do it. He is very particular on his hair, worse than most women I have seen. He has a cut that goes from a 1 to a 2 and then blended and then is scizzor cut and texturized on top, longer in the front. I should correct myself and say I could do it, but we argued too much because sometimes it didn't turn out perfect like he wanted. I was in tears a few times over it. I figured our marriage was more important than his hair.

I was amazed that barbers use such long blades, like 7.5! I thought if I tried to cut with those, I would lop a finger or two off.

Anonymous

Posted: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:33:00 AM
I have done a lot of training inside schools and to new stylists I have hired and always go back to the easiest way to blending. Remember the guard you can cut that is closest to what you can cut with the shears at the closest. This is usually the #4 which is 1/2 inch long. So if you are doing a number 2 fade, simple go #2, #2 1/2, #3, #3 1/2, #4. Then scissor the top blending it in with the #4. You don't have to use clipper over comb or scissor over comb because you can already cut to a 1/2 inch. If you rock your clippers correctly you don't even have to use your halfs. I hope this helps you!

mc
Posts: 2360
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Posted: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:32:00 PM
I could never fade short to long I always do long to short.

britboy
Posts: 2083
Platinum Member

Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:19:00 AM
Anonymous 11.15...
You have missed the whole point...many Barbers use 10 inch shears, a popular brand is Fillipino, but they don't cut their fingers because they cut scissor-over-comb not between the fingers like Cosmetologists, get it?
Cosmetologists are not barbers no matter how good they get with the electric clippers, there's a lot more to it than just that.

britboy
Posts: 2083
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:21:00 AM
Oh one more thing...Barbers don't use guards, they use skills.

Anonymous

Posted: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:58:00 PM
Yep! That is why they only know one way to cut hair. ha ha

britboy
Posts: 2083
Platinum Member

Posted: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:02:00 PM
Not really, in fact it's the Cosmetologists who work in the Supercuts salons and quick-service salons that know only one way to cut men's hair, they even ask the client what size guard they want to have used... talk about amateurish behavior... Barbers are really very skilled, they can do it by feel, not by guard #, that's the difference.
They also don't need a 'Flattopper' tool to do that cut.

Anonymous

Posted: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:27:00 PM
To Zoe. You could try using thinning or texturizing shears to blend your cuts instead of scissors over comb. It's the same technique as scissor over comb, but with the thinning shear it blends much better. Also, take your time and do smaller sections so you can see how well it blends before you move to the next section. Get a hold of a mannequin if you can and practice. Hope this helps. :)

hairhappens
Posts: 101
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Posted: Saturday, August 07, 2004 4:48:00 PM
Zoe...I agree with mc and think it is easier to go from long to short. I scissor cut the top and then use the clippers, maybe using a 4 then stepping down to the size they want. I blend the 4 into the top, and the 3/2 into that and there is no need to use scissor over comb or thinning shears to blend because you are doing that with the clippers as you go. And don't listen to britboy. You CAN make money doing clipper cuts and they are not 'fading'. I can make more money doing men's cuts than I can women's because I can get about four of them done in the time it takes to do one woman's shampoo/cut/style.

newtothegame
Posts: 1

You shouldn't be such a hair snob.
Posted: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:04:42 PM
Just because a stylist is new or performs a cut in a manner which is easier to them doesn't mean that it is not correct or proper. it is not your job to judge, just assist when needed. don't be a hair snob. New stylists need assistance, not comments telling them what "real barbers" do. That just knocks down their self confidence.

hues4you
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Posted: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:43:46 PM

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AMirage
Posts: 402
Silver Member

Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:11:16 AM

I tend to use a fade comb to blend and carve my shapes into my buzz cuts. There are several kinds. I find a thinner comb helps me blend my shorter fades. I use clippers over comb on almost all mens short haircuts, some haircuts thats all I use. I use the guards when I am looking for a crew, or looking to fade from a 2 to 000 down the nape. Carving a haircut in with clipper over comb can really expand your creativity and give you results you couldn't get from any other technique. Practice on the hairline along the ears and nape, then slowly start working your way up.

As far as blending with guards attached when you reach your line, working from long to short, you slightly angle the clippers out and off the head. Never stop abrupt, with a straight edged line, it will make blending so much more difficult.

Thinning with the shears works for me with some of my clients where the buzz cut and the scissor cut come together.

Good luck on the search for the perfect blending technique.... enjoy all the different ones.

AMirage

Wow read the thread, and responded to it without ever looking at the dates. Old thread lol. Shrugs, oh well. Where is my coffee?

 



Jocee437
Posts: 4

Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:53:01 PM

Oh I remember my first clipper cut, it was horrible, lol

But after about a week or so practicing I found they were the easiest haircuts to do. I had somebody show me a sure fire way to blend with my messing up.

Say if you were to be doing a #1 fade I would first

1. Take the 1 and do as you did before with your 2 but in the back I wouldn't go up past the round of the head, be sure to keep your clippers straight up do not go with the round of the head (at least not until you get more comfortable)

2. Take your #2 and go about a 1/2 inch or so above the line  you made with the 1

3. Then take you #3 and do the same thing as with your 2.

4. You will see a line where you had done your #1 and #2. Where that line is you would but your #1 back on and raise your 1/2 bar up and just go back through that line with the #1 1/2.

5. I always do all my dry work first, so I lined my guys out before cutting the top.

6. Now you start cutting the top

Good luck hope it helps :0)

 



Scottish Lassie
Posts: 71

All of these are GREAT answers!
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:00:26 PM

Don't we all remember the first times with any short cuts, men's/women's?

Great advice "britboy"- get rid of those flat toppers and develop your own skills!

If you think of your first blade/guard as your main GUIDELINE, then you spend the rest of your time ERASING that guideline, and the blending will come.  Never go more than 1/2" above the previous line - with the next largest blade.

Have made great money over the years perfecting these skills and I was always the one with my hand up when someone wanted a short/miltary cut, everyone else always backed away from it.  I realised that if no-one else could do it, I'D make all the money with these clients!