Didn't david bowie have the mullet in the 70's??(ground patrol to major tom........) I remember him in the 80's with short hair and pastel big shouldered suits. (I know I'm responding to a 2004 post.....)

Roland, I think Tina Turners hair was a shag, and it always was a shag in the late 70's and all through the 80's. (I don't know if you are confusing her with one of the dancers in Pat Benatars distasterous Love is a Battlefield video...lol) But also: tina has always worn a wig since the late 60's or early 70's. She burned her hair with bleach right before a show or something and has worn wigs or weaves ever since. I do remember in her what's love got to do with it video that she had one side clipped up....or was that private dancer? (that song still makes me giggle when I heard it recently.)

tina has always worn a wig since the late 60's or early 70's. She burned her hair with bleach right before a show or something and has worn wigs or weaves ever since.

Oh, grow up, please...Surely you didn't fall for that one?

If she had 'burned her hair' in 1975, or even 1985, or even in 1995, wouldn't it have grown out by now? The reason she wears wigs is because they look better than her own hair, it's that simple...

hee hee hee. brit how did you get what you wrote from what I wrote? talk about reading things into things.....

She wrote about the bleach/wig thing in her book I Tina.

 I don't think that her hair didn't grow back, and I never said that I did think or feel that. I'm just relating why she said she wears wigs. I just know that she tried to bleach it herself and freaked out over what she did and how bad it looked. And she had a show to do...... luckily one of the Ikettes had a wig.....and there we go....wig/weave city forever!

If bleach was that dangerous do you think that the govt. would allow us to put it on people?

"If bleach was that dangerous do you think that the govt. would allow us to put it on people?"

If they could make a profit? Absolutely.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

 I don't think that her hair didn't grow back, and I never said that I did think or feel that. I'm just relating why she said she wears wigs. I just know that she tried to bleach it herself and freaked out over what she did and how bad it looked. And she had a show to do...... luckily one of the Ikettes had a wig.....and there we go....wig/weave city forever!

But that was 35 years ago, so that can't be why she wears a wig can it? No, she wears one because it looks better than her own hair, the story about the bleach is a justification. Historically she was rather politically incorrect, wearing a wig during the period when other 'sisters' and 'brothers' were proudly displaying their Afro's, so she made up a story as a cover. Personally I have always loved the wigs she wears, they shake-it while she shakes it.

If bleach was that dangerous do you think that the govt. would allow us to put it on people?

They allow us to but guns don't they?

ok I get what your saying now.

Tina was ahead of her time and she's still beautiful today, I think.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

I'M not gonna correct him.......hee hee hee. I'm too afraid.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

Thank you for clearing that up. My keyboard is obviously different than yours because the t and y are not even remotely close to one another.

My y is on the bottom left row and my t is on the top left to center row. Surely a well traveled person such as yourself realizes not every keyboard is built the same? And with the frequent remarks made by you about proper spelling and grammar, I thought it odd that you would allow yourself to fall under scrutiny. Hence my confusion. Now really, that wasn't too hard to figure out, was it? In the future, it might be wise to refrain from a haughty reply without first knowing facts.

M2, I fail to see your logic. Guns are manufactured for the sole purpose of human use. Honestly now, what other use could they possibly have? Paperweight? Art? The Government approves them because of the lucrative profit they bring to coffers. Proper use or not, that fact remains.

Your analogy is much like saying that drugs such as oxycontin are not dangerous unless used improperly. To that end, there are countless inanimate objects that, left alone, pose no threat to human welfare. Regardless of whether they're used properly or not, they still pose a threat if used for what they were intended for.  

Further, bleach is not dangerous unless mixed with a chemical that contradicts its integrity or otherwise used improperly. The Government knows this but approves it anyway, just as they approve guns and tobacco and every other toxic or harmful substance known to mankind, that, left alone, poses no human threat. Again, why? Profit.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

What?  What kind of keyboard do you have???? 

Are you using a pda?

Thank you for clearing that up. My keyboard is obviously different than yours because the t and y are not even remotely close to one another.

My y is on the bottom left row and my t is on the top left to center row. Surely a well traveled person such as yourself realizes not every keyboard is built the same?

I've really never heard of this difference in key placement, how would anyone learn to type if the keys are in diffent places on different keyboards. Do others share this difference in key placement? I've only ever seen it done one way...

And with the frequent remarks made by you about proper spelling and grammar, I thought it odd that you would allow yourself to fall under scrutiny. Hence my confusion. Now really, that wasn't too hard to figure out, was it? In the future, it might be wise to refrain from a haughty reply without first knowing facts.

I'm interested to hear from others regarding these facts actually, let's see how many others share your key configuration before we decide who's haughty, which by the way, isn't a sin.

"I've really never heard of this difference in key placement, how would anyone learn to type if the keys are in diffent places on different keyboards. Do others share this difference in key placement?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Germany_and_Austria_.28but_not_Switzerland.29

Copy that link to your address bar and learn a lesson today. You're going to have to pay close attention to what you're looking at. The page doesn't provide spellcheck.

"I'm interested to hear from others regarding these facts actually"

I have already explained the facts to you. Are you having trouble comprehending?

"let's see how many others share your key configuration before we decide who's haughty, which by the way, isn't a sin."

"We" do not need to "decide" who's haughty. I made a correct judgment call that your reply to me was haughty. I don't need a consensus from others for validation of my assertion. Keep in mind, your reply wasn't directed at "others".  Incidentally, it's also not a crime or a sin to admit to being, on occasion, fallible. 

Now, would you like some milk to wash down your crow pie?

This concludes our lesson for today. I trust we can get back to the topic at hand now.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

 I guess we all learned something about keyboards and I thought all we needed to know was that american appliances won't fit the plugs in other countries. Better pack our keyboards too! lol

No, Vallygrrl, in all fairness I wasn't. Please don't presume to know what I am thinking or what you "think" I know.

Further, I did not place extra questions marks at the end of my question, which clearly indicates I was not taunting anyone, nor did I ask you for your personal assessment of the matter.

If you read my response to Mina2, you'll see my second post, stating clearly that I wasn't attempting to "correct" anyone and that I wondered what it meant.

Some of you people would do well to expand your minds and knowledge instead of jumping in with derisive remarks on what you proclaim to know as fact when, truth be told, you have no clue what you're bombinating about.

There are people all over the world communicating via internet. It's astonishing that some of you don't stop to think that America isn't the only country on the planet.

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

I know I totally didn't get it!

Ok I would like to address a few things:

This topic is way out of hand, so I am going to step in.  It started out as a topic about mullets.  Now we are talking about keyboards, spelling and guns.  So I have the following to say:

Nic:  I have read the posts.  You have done nothing wrong.  I was not aware of other keyboards out there.  Please keep posting as you are and keep up the good work.  You have no reason to defend yourself.

Britboy and others:  This is not a spelling bee.  This is a Hair/Salon/Business forum.  Think about it.  Look how many posts have drifted off topic.  Get over it.  This is getting old.  If you are concerned about your spelling just hit ABC at the top of your post it will spell check for you.    And if you make a spelling mistake, Britboy - give them a break, please!  Doesn't mean they are not good at what they do - just means you have an issue with it.  This is not an English forum.

Valley - I am not going to put up with slang and the talk of guns on these boards.  Nor will I have condenscending talk towards me in your posts.  You are being warned online at this moment.  If you keep this up, you will be banned.  If you have a problem with what I am talking about email me at hues4you@midsouth.rr.com.  I am sure you understand, because I don't think you go in and talk this way to your clients or your boss and you are not going to do it to me or on these boards.

At this point I hope we can move on to something of interest and educational to all.  Thank you,

Cindy Farr Hester  Asst Moderator

Dear mina and valley-

mina, please let valley speak for herself and valley let mina speak for herself and valley let nic speak for himself and I think we will all be fine.  No sense her in trying to read each others minds.  I have scene this many times when this has not worked.  Thank you.  And please let me do my job while you are at it. 

Cindy Farr Hester  Asst Moderator

Ok.. I'll reiterate

Val- that WAS  a joke, WASN'T it?

 p.s. I don't mind if Val  speaks for me.  She knows me very well.

muah

sonnnammmaa GUN!

Some of you people would do well to expand your minds and knowledge instead of jumping in with derisive remarks on what you proclaim to know as fact when, truth be told, you have no clue what you're bombinating about.

I'm sorry but I've never heard or seen the word bombinating, perhaps one needs some special keyboard to understand it's meaning? Does anyone know this word ?

There are people all over the world communicating via internet. It's astonishing that some of you don't stop to think that America isn't the only country on the planet.

All of us who are  here agree that it's simply the best place on the planet, I guess it's as simple as that actually.

Nic- In all fairness you were the one who was haughty at first, saying but???  I mean in all fairness you can't tell me you did not know what he meant. 

Thank you Vally, I believe that you are correct,  it wasn't a creative nor informative issue, it was simply nit-picking.

Nic...The idea here is that we are English speakers, English is the language we write in and we use English language keyboards.

The point was that you were being unnecessarily obtuse and certainly being difficult regarding my typo in the post, whereas when I draw attention to spelling errors or grammatical errors in posts it's to inform, not to nitpick.

Britboy and others:  This is not a spelling bee.  This is a Hair/Salon/Business forum.  Think about it. 

Cindy I do think about it, constantly actually, I think about how sad it is that posters in this trade and to this Business Forum have a pretty difficult time being literate. Just because we are hairstylists doesn't mean that we shouldn't be attempting to correspond in an intelligent manner, and that includes spelling and grammar. There's often discussion here about whether or not hairstylists are 'professionals'...We will never be taken seriously until we demonstrate that we are at least literate.  

Look how many posts have drifted off topic.  Get over it. 

I'm sorry to see you suggesting that I get over the need for literacy, it's disappointing to think that I'm being asked to accept a low standard. 

 This is getting old.  If you are concerned about your spelling just hit ABC at the top of your post it will spell check for you.   

If you are not concerned about spelling...why aren't you concerned about it, it's civilization that's at stake here, not a few badly done pin-curls.

And if you make a spelling mistake, Britboy - give them a break, please!  Doesn't mean they are not good at what they do - just means you have an issue with it.  This is not an English forum.

I never suggested that they weren't good at what they do, I can't understand where that idea came from, and I do have an issue with it, and so should anyone who is concerned for the future of this trade and this language...we need higher standards, not lower ones. I understand it's not an English forum, but it's a business forum conducted in English and there's absolutely no reason that we shouldn't be striving for the higher ground, not the lowest common denominator.  It's well documented that people who can't spell will have poor vocabularies, poor diction and hence poor communication skills, and those are crucial to a good hairstylist. They go hand in hand and to suggest that it's not important is to miss the big picture.

I've said before that hairstylists are generally considered as being Sweaty-Betties, chatty Kathies and we are almost always portrayed in the popular culture and media as being airheads...let's not add fuel to the fire by lowering the standards on this trade site as if to prove their point.

I realize that my opinions are often controversial and my posts sometimes acidic, but I think that I bring some much needed common sense here and I will not apologize for trying to uphold a standard which I believe is in the best interest of the tradespeople.

Good post val-

I agree wholeheartedly with britboy. It seems to me that the only people out there that have a remotely cool perception of us are little girls and pre-teens.

The "chatty kathy" and "sweaty betties" paragraph does hit home. And we are not all ghetto or high school drop outs or whatever. There needs to be a step above other service jobs because after-all, we are required to go to school to learn this and then supposedly monitered by a licensing board just for our industry. Shouldn't we at least try to turn the perception around with proper or correct grammer both in speaking as well as writing regardless of the language we use? You walk into a bank, do your business and when you are leaving the teller says "Later Dude! hang left!" no. I should think not! and a bank teller is basically a cashier with a little more responsibility. How would you like to get a bank form that is peppered with mispellings and slang? Or if their rates board was all jumbled in no particular order? I've walked into salons that have service boards up and you don't know what you are reading. It's not in good order or there are mispellings etc. 

I for one truly believe that this "straying off topic" grammar/spelling topic is very important to our industry.

And just a note: Nic is one of my all-time favorite posters. His/her posts are always filled with intelligence and just about as perfect grammer as I have ever seen. It's a breath of fresh air to read what they have to write....because I can read it!

Let's not forget the gum poppers... good thing we can't hear on this board....

Ok, I am all for the raising the bar of our industry.  Let me rephrase this another.  I am all for literacy and proper communication skills - but I realize that not everyone is a skilled typist, but they can read and they can write.  So we can not assume just because they misspell a word, that they are ignorant.  Do you agree?

Again, use the spell check feature above.  It's ABC with a check mark.  This topic is about Mullets - not spelling.  I hope you all have a good weekend.

Cindy Farr Hester  Asst Moderator

I saw a girl's website- can't remember the site name- but

SHE CUTS MULLETS FOR FREE!  It says:

I'll cut your mullet- FREE!

HAHAHAHA  Thought I'd share a laugh..

Britboy, here is the definition. Cindy, I'm only posting this because he asked what it meant.

Main Entry: bom·bi·nate Pronunciation: 'bäm-b&-"nAt Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): -nat·ed; -nat·ing Etymology: New Latin bombinatus, past participle of bombinare, alteration of Latin bombilare, from bombus : BUZZ, DRONE - bom·bi·na·tion /"bäm-b&-'nA-sh&n/ noun

Habib, thank you for the compliment. I appreciate that. 

Does anyone know who came up with the mullet? 

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
Winston Churchill

Well. I'll be hornswoggled!

The US is still the best place though.

Isn't a mullet a fish?

Mina- maybe someone ought to show up on that girl's doorstep with a bag of dead fish?

You are very welcome Nic.

hornswoggled: to bamboozle; deceive  (bamboozle??? hee hee hee) kind of funny that this is the definition for this. It goes on to say that hornswoggled was one of the earliest of a group of "fancified" words invented by the American west to poke fun at sophisicated folks of the East. this is interesting:read more at  www.dictionary.com

   Britboy, I think what people are trying to say is that you can dish it, but you can't take it.

   If you are going to get on everyone's case about spelling and grammar, be ready to be on  the receiving end and take it like a man when other people call you on it.